Dark stars?

topic posted Mon, April 28, 2008 - 12:27 AM by 
So, I have a possibly stupid question...

There are red dwarfs. There are stars having all kinds of different shades...

Are there any stars out there that don't emit light in the human-visible spectrum? I.E., maybe a star that only emits light in the ultra-violet or infra-red? A "dark star", as far as we would understand it if we didn't have devices capable of seeing outside the visible spectrum?
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  • Re: Dark stars?

    Mon, April 28, 2008 - 8:40 AM
    There are brown drawfs which are several times larger then Jupiter but still to small for nuclear fusion to have started which give off infra-red but no shorter wavelength light.

    An object that has its peak emittion in the ultra-violet (or short wvelengths) must also emit in the longer wavelengths (which includes the visible spectrum). So there are no stars that are "dark" because they emit in the ultra-violet.

    Black-holes don't emit light and aren't stars. I think that covers all possible angles on your question.
    • Re: Dark stars?

      Wed, April 30, 2008 - 10:38 AM
      KELU-1 is not the WMAP cold spot but we don't know what the WMAP cold spot is and as concern KELU-1 we do know what a brown dwarf is. The WMAP cold spot contains.. some say.. another universe?
      • Re: Dark stars?

        Wed, April 30, 2008 - 11:28 PM
        The cold spot contains very little even by intergalactic standards and it is a very large patch of very little. Statistically speaking it shouldn't be a surprise, there are a lot smaller regions that have similar properties, this one just happens to be the largest one known.
        • Re: Dark stars?

          Wed, May 14, 2008 - 8:06 AM
          Thanks, I am aware that Hubble inspected some |cold| regions. Looks like a special study, thus the WMAPO cold spot is NOT ALONE...
    • Re: Dark stars?

      Sun, May 11, 2008 - 3:38 AM
      Thanks for the answer. :)

      Wait... so if I understand correctly, if a star emits in the ultra-violet, it MUST also emit in the visible spectrum.

      But if a star emits in the infra-red, it can be invisible as far as the visible spectrum is concerned? But it will not have nuclear fusion running...

      If a "star" doesn't have nuclear fusion, doesn't that mean it's not a star?
      • Re: Dark stars?

        Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:34 AM
        "Wait... so if I understand correctly, if a star emits in the ultra-violet, it MUST also emit in the visible spectrum. "

        Yes

        "But if a star emits in the infra-red, it can be invisible as far as the visible spectrum is concerned?"

        Yes

        "But it will not have nuclear fusion running... "

        Yes, unless we detect it as a infrared source due to redshift (would have to be very far away) but that case one would be looking at a normal star.

        "If a "star" doesn't have nuclear fusion, doesn't that mean it's not a star?"

        Things aren't so simple. White dwarves don't have have atomic fusion reactions (save infalling matterial) and most of their light output is due to heat.
    • Re: Dark stars?

      Mon, June 2, 2008 - 10:04 PM
      what does the edge of a black hole look like... is it a regular, circular or spherical edge?
      Is it star-ringed?

      Is it pure hypothesis?

      I had a dream where I saw a star strewn edge of a blackhole...but I assume it is a fabrication of my own imagination?
      • Re: Dark stars?

        Mon, June 2, 2008 - 11:13 PM
        They don't actually look like anything unless mater falls into one. As matter falls in it heats up and then gives off light at ever shorter wavelengths as it gets hotter. If the there is enough matter falling in, then there will be a disk of matter around the black hole's equator and a pair of jets along the pole as some of that matter is ejected from the disc.
  • Re: Dark stars?

    Sat, May 24, 2008 - 3:52 PM
    There are no stupid questions. There are only stupid people who *don't* ask questions.
    • Re: Dark stars?

      Sat, May 24, 2008 - 10:23 PM
      This is true.

      And the more you ask questions, often the more questions you end up with. The more you learn, the more you realize there is to learn.

      But hey, if you stop learning, you stop growing and start dying.
  • Re: Dark stars?

    Mon, June 2, 2008 - 10:06 PM
    Which planets have magnetospheres?

    Jupiter.
    Earth.
    and?
    • Re: Dark stars?

      Mon, June 2, 2008 - 11:18 PM
      Any planetary object with a magnetic field will have a magnetosphere. I think both Mars and Venus have a very weak one. Earth, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune and Uranus all have strong ones. I also think some of the moons like Io and Titan have one.
      • Re: Dark stars?

        Mon, June 2, 2008 - 11:32 PM
        well thank you very much.. I'm going to mull it over. (of course I could also study a bit... I suppose ; )

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