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Not exactly astronomy but I'm sure we'll find applications for it in space soon enough
gizmodo.com/5356473/nasa...rats-levitate
NASA scientists have created an anti-gravity field that works at room temperature, which is a big Where's My Back to the Future Skateboard breakthrough. The only problem is that it only works on mice. Mice high as kites, in fact.
Scientists at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, have created a superconducting magnet that generates enough energy to lift small animals off the floor. The magnet pushes the water inside the animals up, making them fly. The amazing fact is that it works at room temperature—not the ultra-cooled down environments typical of these magnets—and it's large enough to make rodents to levitate.
The mice were high in more than one way, though. According to researcher Yuanming Liu, the "first mouse actually kicked around and started to spin, and without friction, it could spin faster and faster, and we think that made it even more disoriented." So they gave a mild sedative to the next mouse, who was happy to float.
gizmodo.com/5356473/nasa...rats-levitate
NASA scientists have created an anti-gravity field that works at room temperature, which is a big Where's My Back to the Future Skateboard breakthrough. The only problem is that it only works on mice. Mice high as kites, in fact.
Scientists at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, have created a superconducting magnet that generates enough energy to lift small animals off the floor. The magnet pushes the water inside the animals up, making them fly. The amazing fact is that it works at room temperature—not the ultra-cooled down environments typical of these magnets—and it's large enough to make rodents to levitate.
The mice were high in more than one way, though. According to researcher Yuanming Liu, the "first mouse actually kicked around and started to spin, and without friction, it could spin faster and faster, and we think that made it even more disoriented." So they gave a mild sedative to the next mouse, who was happy to float.
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Thu, September 10, 2009 - 11:33 AMCool, but I wish people would stop referring to this kind of stuff as anti-gravity, as it has nothing to do with gravity. -
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Thu, September 10, 2009 - 11:45 AMYeah. Its really a mag-lev type technology, but that name is already taken.
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Thu, September 10, 2009 - 12:57 PMSweet of course, but all the've done is to "re-orient" the action of the magnetic field towards, well, acting on water.
It can be immediately applied to any living organism, as long as the magnets are strong enough, (at the room temperature).
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Fri, September 11, 2009 - 12:14 PMWonder if this can possible lead to an artificial gravity based on magnetism on space craft. -
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Fri, September 11, 2009 - 2:49 PMI thought this is, (somewhat), exactly what the aliens have, (with a few extra gizmos to juice it up)...
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Fri, September 11, 2009 - 3:03 PMSearl Effect Generator www.youtube.com/watch
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Searl
Obviously there is controversy surrounding him and the device.
I don't see why an electromagnetic device that is pushing ions downward and is powerful enough would not "lift."
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Fri, September 11, 2009 - 5:09 PM"Wonder if this can possible lead to an artificial gravity based on magnetism on space craft. "
It might, but one needs care when thinking about such things. Mice are small (low mass) so the forces needed to levitate them are also small. When one starts thinking about applying the same effects on people, one needs to consider the effects of fields hundreds of times larger. A mouse is, what, about two ounces and a small adult woman might be 100 pounds - that's a factor of 800. With fields that strong, what other effects will they have on people and equipment? -
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Fri, September 11, 2009 - 9:28 PMAha! That is why there are reports that cars and equipment shuts down as a UFO has flown very close to them.
No wonder, such strong magnetic fields.
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Sat, September 12, 2009 - 11:48 AMOk, and don't forget the 'floor' area is small for the mouse in relationship to what the a human would require. A spaceship would obviously need this device to cover most of the floor area on board.
I don't think weight has anything to do with how much power when your comparing mice and humans. If this device works on water in the body, then it should provide a force derived from the volume of water in that body. More water over a given area, then more weight is measured. Less water in the same given area, then less weight is measured.
So the intensity of the magnets might not need to be high or higher than what was done in the experiment but the scaling up would be mostly in the form of the 'floor' area covered by the devise. And the power to generate such a field would be very large.
Then there's the argument that we don't need the full 1G in a space ship. That we could get by with 1/10 G or 1/3 G (moon standard) or 2/3 G (Mars standard) to stop the bone mass loss. Which would obviously require less power than maintaining a 1 G over the same area. -
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 8:08 PMI did not think that animal bodies were magnetic or would be pushed around by magnetic fields.
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Re: NASA Creates Anti-Gravity Field, Makes Lab Rats Levitate
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 12:49 AMI'm pretty sure they're talking about the same effect that pushed the sub in "the Hunt for Red October." The force is very weak but real, unlike the book. There is enough current and charge separation in water for a very powerful magnet to push things around. Personally, I'm surprised that it was made to work on a mouse...
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